miss raynecorp everything you write fills me with a feeling of YES! EXACTLY! and this is no exception it makes me think of the way people will claim to support restorative justice but can’t conceive of the idea that someone deserves basic respect or privacy or compassion even if they, like, say something off-color about neopronouns. I hope someday that when sharing my ideas I can make other people feel the way I do when I read your words.
incredible writing as always. so perfectly nuanced & reflects a lot of my nebulous thoughts about tiktok & “cancel culture” so so well. really thoughtful piece. thank you!
One thing that strikes me is how relatively new the idea is of actually holding people accountable. Specifically men. This is a newish thing we're doing and haven't quite made it 10 years (of it being more part of public discourse and action beyond what the justice system does(doesn't do)). And as a society, we haven't really figured it out - how to find a balance between doing nothing at all and everything possible. It was ok to bring this person's behavior into public discourse but we don't yet have any common agreed upon ideas about how do deal with it.
Jan 23, 2022·edited Jan 23, 2022Liked by rayne fisher-quann
Dope piece! As ever, the respect you offer social media coupled with incisive analysis makes for an unmissable read. Love how you avoided the rabbit holes but still managed to efficiently touch on so many different strands towards the end asw. Only criticism would be the capitalisation of ‘Trojan-Horse’. That threw me off; I was convinced you had a custom keyboard without a shift key.
Perfectly explained the frustration i had over this trend. Comsuming individual's life because your personal bad memories are triggerred is revengeful and unethical. The system of casual dating needs to improve, and has tons of stuffs to say, but none of the parties involved in this is driven by kind and justice, but attention, clout and an instant high. (Guilty to say that maybe the reason i am following this is to chase the social media high...)
I definitely agree with this piece! seeing “west elm caleb” unfold feels like watching a black mirror episode about “what if callout-era tumblr was real life” and it is horrifying. the guy seems like a low-to-medium-grade sex pest but a corporate-sponsored humiliation campaign is over the top
Incidents like this make me feel all "doomer"-y about the current state/spectacle of social media. I absolutely loved this essay for perfectly articulating how capitalism/neoliberal feminism shapes that state/spectacle. You're such a fantastic writer <3
i’m really happy to see someone intellectual commenting on this because i just had the worst feeling in my stomach about it the whole time. firstly… a public reckoning of this scale never seemed fit for someone who ghosted, even if it was multiple people. second, you’re right! i never even heard that he sent unsolicited nudes. that’s what would be worth calling out. and everyone was enjoying the call out so much, it felt directionless and callous, like totally devoid of meaning or teaching. also one more thing- i had the same thought about the term love bombing, it feels out of place in the context of a couple dates. it implies the cycle of abuse.. which if he’s ghosting, wouldn’t that contradict? but there should be a word for people who are way too affectionate/familiar on the first date bc no doubt they are manipulators, just maybe love bombing isn’t appropriate in that context.
Have you seen the hollywood film “Strange Days” directed by Kathryn Bigelow (Hurt Locker)? If “you” haven’t it came out in late 90s and speaks of this as its a society that can upload experiences for others to experience. A black market pervades society as crime of all sorts is committed to indulge appetites that seek a kind of sensory fix. I found it interesting because you hi-lighted the seemingly obvious realm of tech oligarchs and how in this (and many dystopian sci-fi stories) they are synonymous with ruthless gangsters that commodify even the most intimate of personal freedoms as taking a shower and basking in the afterglow of who has let you into their heart long after they have discorporated. But I digress.
This is a great piece, first time reading your stuff and I love the style.
You've sold it to me; this is def a problem. But by the end, I am left wondering - what's your solution? You seem pretty against the idea of attention-based algorithms in general, but (pardon my neoliberal optimism), why wouldn't it be it enough for Tiktok etc just to have stronger content moderation for stuff like this?
masterful, a piece of writing capable of reopening nuanced conversations around cancel culture and the celebration of schadenfreude spectacle. addressing the missing ceiling of punitive response by suggesting a wave of intimate and more personal consequence is, 🧑🍳💋
your writing is nuanced and beautiful. everything i felt about this whole thing, you put it in the most accurate words, i feel so grateful. i aspire to write like you one day.
I'm not sure I agree feminism should be moving towards a smaller circle of influence and radical empathy - we've seen feminism works to reform through mass numbers campaigning on large-scale platforms. However, I agree that feigning romantic interest to get sex does not cut it for a cancel campaign. His unsolicited nudes are a far more concerning behaviour.
It’s like no one cares that this is just a random guy with a normal life who probably doesn’t care about how he has hurt ppl but more worried about if he’s gonna lose his job or get doxed. And if you mention this it’s turned against you like your a misogynist, pick me girl. Like yeah he sounds like a horrible, vile person but this isn’t the way to solve this majorly damaging systemic issue!
miss raynecorp everything you write fills me with a feeling of YES! EXACTLY! and this is no exception it makes me think of the way people will claim to support restorative justice but can’t conceive of the idea that someone deserves basic respect or privacy or compassion even if they, like, say something off-color about neopronouns. I hope someday that when sharing my ideas I can make other people feel the way I do when I read your words.
aspiring to write this well and thoughtfully
incredible writing as always. so perfectly nuanced & reflects a lot of my nebulous thoughts about tiktok & “cancel culture” so so well. really thoughtful piece. thank you!
One thing that strikes me is how relatively new the idea is of actually holding people accountable. Specifically men. This is a newish thing we're doing and haven't quite made it 10 years (of it being more part of public discourse and action beyond what the justice system does(doesn't do)). And as a society, we haven't really figured it out - how to find a balance between doing nothing at all and everything possible. It was ok to bring this person's behavior into public discourse but we don't yet have any common agreed upon ideas about how do deal with it.
Dope piece! As ever, the respect you offer social media coupled with incisive analysis makes for an unmissable read. Love how you avoided the rabbit holes but still managed to efficiently touch on so many different strands towards the end asw. Only criticism would be the capitalisation of ‘Trojan-Horse’. That threw me off; I was convinced you had a custom keyboard without a shift key.
Perfectly explained the frustration i had over this trend. Comsuming individual's life because your personal bad memories are triggerred is revengeful and unethical. The system of casual dating needs to improve, and has tons of stuffs to say, but none of the parties involved in this is driven by kind and justice, but attention, clout and an instant high. (Guilty to say that maybe the reason i am following this is to chase the social media high...)
I definitely agree with this piece! seeing “west elm caleb” unfold feels like watching a black mirror episode about “what if callout-era tumblr was real life” and it is horrifying. the guy seems like a low-to-medium-grade sex pest but a corporate-sponsored humiliation campaign is over the top
Incidents like this make me feel all "doomer"-y about the current state/spectacle of social media. I absolutely loved this essay for perfectly articulating how capitalism/neoliberal feminism shapes that state/spectacle. You're such a fantastic writer <3
really loved this piece! your writing is masterful and i look forward to reading more <3
i’m really happy to see someone intellectual commenting on this because i just had the worst feeling in my stomach about it the whole time. firstly… a public reckoning of this scale never seemed fit for someone who ghosted, even if it was multiple people. second, you’re right! i never even heard that he sent unsolicited nudes. that’s what would be worth calling out. and everyone was enjoying the call out so much, it felt directionless and callous, like totally devoid of meaning or teaching. also one more thing- i had the same thought about the term love bombing, it feels out of place in the context of a couple dates. it implies the cycle of abuse.. which if he’s ghosting, wouldn’t that contradict? but there should be a word for people who are way too affectionate/familiar on the first date bc no doubt they are manipulators, just maybe love bombing isn’t appropriate in that context.
thanks for your take!!! super refreshing❤️
Have you seen the hollywood film “Strange Days” directed by Kathryn Bigelow (Hurt Locker)? If “you” haven’t it came out in late 90s and speaks of this as its a society that can upload experiences for others to experience. A black market pervades society as crime of all sorts is committed to indulge appetites that seek a kind of sensory fix. I found it interesting because you hi-lighted the seemingly obvious realm of tech oligarchs and how in this (and many dystopian sci-fi stories) they are synonymous with ruthless gangsters that commodify even the most intimate of personal freedoms as taking a shower and basking in the afterglow of who has let you into their heart long after they have discorporated. But I digress.
This is a great piece, first time reading your stuff and I love the style.
You've sold it to me; this is def a problem. But by the end, I am left wondering - what's your solution? You seem pretty against the idea of attention-based algorithms in general, but (pardon my neoliberal optimism), why wouldn't it be it enough for Tiktok etc just to have stronger content moderation for stuff like this?
masterful, a piece of writing capable of reopening nuanced conversations around cancel culture and the celebration of schadenfreude spectacle. addressing the missing ceiling of punitive response by suggesting a wave of intimate and more personal consequence is, 🧑🍳💋
thanks for the essay!
your writing is nuanced and beautiful. everything i felt about this whole thing, you put it in the most accurate words, i feel so grateful. i aspire to write like you one day.
I'm not sure I agree feminism should be moving towards a smaller circle of influence and radical empathy - we've seen feminism works to reform through mass numbers campaigning on large-scale platforms. However, I agree that feigning romantic interest to get sex does not cut it for a cancel campaign. His unsolicited nudes are a far more concerning behaviour.
It’s like no one cares that this is just a random guy with a normal life who probably doesn’t care about how he has hurt ppl but more worried about if he’s gonna lose his job or get doxed. And if you mention this it’s turned against you like your a misogynist, pick me girl. Like yeah he sounds like a horrible, vile person but this isn’t the way to solve this majorly damaging systemic issue!